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Why is it that everywhere one turns these days it is nothing but sex, sex, sex? Everywhere! SEx on T.V., Sex in the movies, sex in magazines...and not just smut pages...EVERY magazine has something to say about it. Sex in clubs, sex in the bathrooms at schools ofr Goddess' sake! What si happening to the world?!?! Do not get me wrong..I am a bit of a Succubus...but damn! Do we, as a species, as "Evolved" as we supposedly are...have nothing better to doo, think, or talk about...than SEX??
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Wed, August 2, 2006 - 8:12 PMI'm with Will (but only because he's a hunk, of course). -
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Wed, August 2, 2006 - 11:27 PMsex is presented as poor substitute for community, affection, and connectedness most of us we experience, i think. like taking vitamins instead of eating. but perhaps if our lives were more sexually free, and rich in community and affection as well, there wouldn't be so much in manufactured cultural artifacts? -
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Thu, August 3, 2006 - 3:08 AMHmm..interesting point of view Jeff. A substitute for affection. I like the fact that you point out "Sexual Freedom"....It is quite true. We are sexually enslaved in the US. Though we are constantly told we are free, we can do wahtever we want...it is all bull-shit, as many of us who are enlightened understand. Great point. Thanks
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Tue, December 5, 2006 - 3:10 AM"sex is presented as poor substitute for community, affection, and connectedness most of us we experience, i think. like taking vitamins instead of eating. but perhaps if our lives were more sexually free, and rich in community and affection as well, there wouldn't be so much in manufactured cultural artifacts?"
I find this to be quite quotable. Well said.
I'm glad to have found this thread. I think about this *all* *the* *time*. For the longest time I thought sex equaled love. Period. I always felt sad seeing couples in public because it made me feel like they had this wonderful grand thing that I didn't have, a deep connection and all the happiness in the world. It's taken me forever to realize that just because people are groping in public does *not* guarantee that they have genuine love for each other. It just means the Lavalife company has done their job quite well.
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Thu, August 3, 2006 - 3:09 AMSo does crack...but you dont see theose who are They pushing that on every TV show, magazine, billboard and theater do you? -
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Thu, August 3, 2006 - 4:20 AMI think it really is because it is so easy to use in advertising. Not only that, but it sells books, movies etc... it grabs our attention.
Crack sells, for sure, but is not so useful as a cheap gag line on a sitcom, or a subliminal bait hiding the hook of commercialism. Sex is uniquely useful for these purposes for simple biological reasons.
I think it is McLove, the emotional equivalent of fast food. Perhaps we focus on sex as a culture because we are too shallow and embarrased for a conversation on our deeper emotional needs.
I'm old enough to remember the 50's and much of this being in the closet. That was really bad. So in a way, i can see this easily as a cultural overreaction to the vestiges of victorian wierdness about sex being dirty.
Sex is most definately connected with kundalini and with our continued evolutionary surge. At a deep level, maybe we can read it as a drive to better ourcellves as individuals and as a species. A good energy that can be put to questionable use. Kinda like money, in that regard, and indeed, our greed for money is used in advertising in a very similar way.
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Fri, August 4, 2006 - 2:00 AMThe expression of sex we see now in our cultures are a result of the repression of sex....it is healthy & will work itself through eventually hopefully once the freedom of sex is realised...we are but babies in our knowledge of our most basic primal instinct...so now we are going through our baby learning years.
Those who are deviod of sex or limited will express their limits with other needy behaviours...like eating too much....depending on others too much...over-indulgenesses of all types both legal & illegal...also religous mania. -
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Fri, August 4, 2006 - 4:34 AMI think natural interest in sex varies so much from individual to individual, and with different stages of life that it is difficult to make generalizations.
I think those in a less, or even non, sexual mode are not necessarily unbalanced and needing to express that in overeating or over dependence on others.
On the contrary, it might be an indication that the person is evolving to the point where they feel complete within themcellves. Easy with the void, and not needing to try to fill it with inappropriate eating or fucking.
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Sat, August 5, 2006 - 6:55 AMfoucault was smart and too full of himself i think, but he was smart to say that the forms sexuality takes in its libertine guide can be just as managed as those acts that are forbidden. in other words, the way they suggest we talk about sex automatically directs thought about it in a certain way, centered around the issue of shame, and we're in a game we didn't know was happening. -
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Sat, August 5, 2006 - 6:56 AMoops
"guide" = "guise"
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Re: This Obsession with Sex...
Thu, November 2, 2006 - 11:29 PMI agree with you..that's how I feel too..
And what is sold as sexual liberation is for me all too often the colonisation of sexuality bij capitalism and consumerism. So it's not liberation at all.. it's colonisation. -
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Sat, November 4, 2006 - 9:33 PMit is important to present our ideas of actual sexual liberation though. if we just assume the victimized posture, we rob ourselves of erotic power.
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Unsu...
Go to the next level...
Sat, November 4, 2006 - 11:24 PM...which I tried to explain to some random guy along the road (yeah, I'm the one who talks to strangers). There I am, talking to some guy, about sex, and he's thinking it's such a great idea to have sex without ties. And I'm trying to explain that he needs to go beyond sex. I believe it was:
A. A concept he could not comprehend
B. A concept he did NOT want to conprehend
C. Some perv fishing for cheap sex
D. All of the above.
What do I say? Turn off the TV. I did. Don't go to or watch movies. I did that too. Stop paying magazines for providing sex. I did that as well.
I got sooooo sick of gratuitous semi-porn (or close to it, or far beyond it) and all the swearing I made my own tribe.
There's a HUGE difference between intelligent discussions about sex, and just plain smut. Since that line varies from person to person YOU get to make up your OWN mind as to what is crap and what is intelligent.
Here's an example. I have one of the Matisse Blue Nudes (after Matisse had a heart attack) cut outs in my profile. It IS simply a female form cut out in paper. More than one person has dared to make Matisse equivalent to cheap boobie shots designed to titillate men (no pun intended).
I'm thinking "Matisse" and "Your boobies" ...."No Comparison".
Looking through men's profiles..."A brilliant work of art" and a "crappy snapshot with your camera phone of your penis"...NOT! THE! SAME!
It ain't a close up of a masterpiece, it's a close up of an exibitionist masturbating. It is NOT THE SAME.
All any men and women need is a good sex education. Scamper over to the Evolution tribe (it's in my profile). I followed Jeff over here out of sheer boredom.
A darn good sex education means you'd NEVER have to look at another idiotic TV show, movie, magazine. You AND your partner would KNOW what parts do what, and what parts make for the magical "wooooooo hoooo!!!" moment. Easy enough to find on men (note the thing that will poke your eyes out)....but not so easy to find in women.
THERE AIN'T NO SEX SECRET, OTHER THAN KNOWING ANATOMY! Oh, and having a fabulous communication system. But by golly, if a fella knows where to go and what to do, via anatomy, there isn't a lot to talk about. Is there? -
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Sun, November 5, 2006 - 6:27 AM"THERE AIN'T NO SEX SECRET, OTHER THAN KNOWING ANATOMY! Oh, and having a fabulous communication system. But by golly, if a fella knows where to go and what to do, via anatomy, there isn't a lot to talk about. Is there?"
well, considering the sex negativity that we've all grown up with, i'd say there's more to liberation than anatomy. we need to have an honest comunication with ourselves about our desires, which isn't easy. but it can be fun! -
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Unsu...
Re: Go to the next level...
Sun, November 5, 2006 - 9:09 AM"THERE AIN'T NO SEX SECRET, OTHER THAN KNOWING ANATOMY! Oh, and having a fabulous communication system. But by golly, if a fella knows where to go and what to do, via anatomy, there isn't a lot to talk about. Is there?"
I must disagree with you there. Yes, knowledge of one's anatomy is very useful, but so is trust, feeling good about your body, and feeling good about sex. If you don't have these things, orgasm is rarely possible for a woman. -
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Unsu...
Re: Go to the next level...
Tue, February 6, 2007 - 2:22 PMSex is the highest pleasure in the material world. If we want something higher we have to experience something truly spiritual. -
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Re: Go to the next level...
Tue, February 6, 2007 - 2:37 PMsex is the highest pleasure in teh material world? i mean, sex is ok, and maybe i'm just a shitty lover, but to me, teh highest pleasure in the material world is in this order, roughly 1) really good food, 2) really exquisit music, 3) a divine sunset.
to each his own. -
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Re: Go to the next level...
Tue, February 6, 2007 - 5:10 PM"sex is the highest pleasure in teh material world? i mean, sex is ok, and maybe i'm just a shitty lover, but to me, teh highest pleasure in the material world is in this order, roughly 1) really good food, 2) really exquisit music, 3) a divine sunset."
Here here. Though I would certainly put sex up there on my priorities the physical act in and of itself isn't particularly great. Maybe I too am a lousy lay (well, there's no maybe about it, really) but I don't think sex is enjoyable unless it's coupled with some sort of feeling of connection. That's not to say that I think people who engauge in casual sex lack that connection, but it just takes me a bit longer to attain that, I guess. -
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Re: Go to the next level...
Tue, February 6, 2007 - 5:16 PMThe reproductive organs are said to have a pleasure giving coating without which noone would bother to go through with the process of having children because otherwise it is so hard of an ordeal. I have not had such pleasure looking at a sunset but maybe I am looking at it wrong. Eating sleeping mating and defending these four activities are what material life is made of. -
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Re: Go to the next level...
Tue, February 6, 2007 - 5:30 PMHi Brock and Brinda and Parvati!
I perked up when I saw what you guys were talking about. I couldn't agree with you more Caleb, it's love that we want from each other. Sex is a good way to express that sometimes, as long as we're not renunciates, in which case we'd have to cut all such activity off completely.
Although i've been having a struggle lately in my own personal sexual life, catching little hints from my new boyfriend that he already wants an open relationship, i try not to think about sex. That's hard !! -
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...
Re: Go to the next level...
Tue, February 6, 2007 - 5:47 PMcintamani I would like to say dump that new boyfriend of yours, but we gotta do what we gotta do sometimes. but it sounds like you are out of his class -
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Sex is Sex Forget the Rest....
Sat, February 10, 2007 - 3:15 PMAn old Adam Ant Song:
"Sex is sex, forget the rest, the only one that's free, the only great adventure left to humankind is you and me! Seeeeexxxx, S.E.X."
The final frontier is littered with our space junk
The oceans are full of oil spills and dying creatures
The land, well it's toxic baby
And community is strip malls and cell phones.
What do most people have left but to Do It? Doing it activates some hunter/prey instincts - oh let's get PRIMAL baby! And so many people wanting to go TRIBAL, PRIMAL and back to the ROOTS.
Spirtual progress is sold as a byproduct of good sex. How many western tantra people are breathing through orgasms?
The artist is marginalized. The intellectual is post modern and hopelessly wrong.
If you can't afford to go out to eat good food, or you live in a region where there is no such thing, or you live in perhaps an area that is void of natural beauty, it seems the thing to turn to would be to stimulate what is deadened and dulled by the mundane world as it currently exists. And to sell it to the masses keeps them all nice and distracted. It's simple, it's easy, and almost everyone has what is needed to participate!
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