The Women's Room

topic posted Tue, September 25, 2007 - 10:04 AM by  lori
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I just finished rereading this classic by Marilyn French. What a great book though the end is a bit dismal for the narrator. I'm angry all over again. I'm thinking of asking one of my male friends to read it, he's so sure he isn't sexist. LOL, it would be a rude awakening if he could even get through it. Male privilege is so deeply embedded in our culture I think many men (and women) just accept it as a given.

I love the women in this book, especially Iso!
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lori
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  • Re: The Women's Room

    Wed, September 26, 2007 - 8:55 AM
    hi lori - I read the book as a teenager (so a pretty long time ago, I believe it was my mom's copy she bought when it came out in paperback). It's funny, I remember the cover quite well but not a lot of the story. I think I may have to re-read it :-)

    I think you're right, and I'd take it a bit further. All kinds of privileges are so deeply embedded in our culture that we don't recognize them. Men often don't recognize their's (on the extreme end they consider themselves victimized by feminists when their privileges are challenged). White people often don't recognize the privileges we get just from being white. Rich and upper and middle class people often don't recognize the privileges of their class. And so on. Personally I'm conscious that as a relatively attractive, educated, well traveled, white woman born in the 1960s in a country that is wealthy and provides for its citizens that I have many options, opportunities and privileges that others may not have. Some of these are due to accidents of birth, some of these are due to the efforts of my mother and grandmother (and myself). No matter where they come from, to point out another's privileges without acknowledging my own would be to inherently hypocritical from my perspective. (And was, of course, one of the blind spots of 70s era feminism that had to be addressed.)

    Here's a link to a re-reading of the book I though you might enjoy :-) books.guardian.co.uk/review/...,00.html
    • Re: The Women's Room

      Fri, September 28, 2007 - 12:40 PM
      "No matter where they come from, to point out another's privileges without acknowledging my own would be to inherently hypocritical from my perspective."


      Okay, I'm confused.

      ??? Are you suggesting that I am being hypocritical by mentioning the issue of male privilege without mentioning any privileges I may experience???

      I do agree that seeing how males respond to challenges to their sense of privilege gives me insight into some of my own reactions as a mostly anglo individual in a racist society, I don't think I necessarily have to preface every discussion of sexism with an acknowledgment of that awareness.
      • Re: The Women's Room

        Fri, September 28, 2007 - 12:53 PM
        lori - Sorry, no I wasn't trying to imply you were being hypocritical...I was just taking my thoughts out for a walk and extending ideas about privilege a bit (to extend to myself really :). Partly because it was one of the issues vis a vis the wave of feminism that this book was published during.
  • Re: The Women's Room

    Wed, September 26, 2007 - 10:38 AM
    tell me more! I have never read this book. tell me about it.
    • Re: The Women's Room

      Wed, September 26, 2007 - 10:41 AM
      chad - I'd suggest you read it since I'd suspect your experience reading it would be quite different than a woman's :-)
    • Re: The Women's Room

      Fri, September 28, 2007 - 12:48 PM
      ummmm, it's a book...about a circle of women in graduate school in Harvard during the late 60's. It's quite excellent. If I was a man and I wanted to understand women, I would read it.

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